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	<title>Comments on: Clearly Time To End This</title>
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	<description>Ask forgiveness, not permission.</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 17:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://steve.vinoski.net/blog/2008/05/18/clearly-time-to-end-this/#comment-978</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 08:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bill: yes, an uber-VM would be nice for a lot of applications. All I'm saying, though, is that when Ted or anyone else says "oh, we'll just build Erlang's reliability into this VM over here," I think they're dreaming, unless they're aware that it'll take years to get there but they're leaving that part out for whatever reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bill: yes, an uber-VM would be nice for a lot of applications. All I&#8217;m saying, though, is that when Ted or anyone else says &#8220;oh, we&#8217;ll just build Erlang&#8217;s reliability into this VM over here,&#8221; I think they&#8217;re dreaming, unless they&#8217;re aware that it&#8217;ll take years to get there but they&#8217;re leaving that part out for whatever reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Burke</title>
		<link>http://steve.vinoski.net/blog/2008/05/18/clearly-time-to-end-this/#comment-977</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 12:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, I thought you were behind the UBER-VM?  If we're gonna have this polyglot world, we'll need to unify under something like the VM or integration is gonna be a bitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, I thought you were behind the UBER-VM?  If we&#8217;re gonna have this polyglot world, we&#8217;ll need to unify under something like the VM or integration is gonna be a bitch.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Wilson</title>
		<link>http://steve.vinoski.net/blog/2008/05/18/clearly-time-to-end-this/#comment-925</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 18:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having spent decades up to my neck in c++ socket code (something I quite enjoy actually) I've got to say the one thing this all has done for me is to make me look about for some, any excuse to start noodling around with erlang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having spent decades up to my neck in c++ socket code (something I quite enjoy actually) I&#8217;ve got to say the one thing this all has done for me is to make me look about for some, any excuse to start noodling around with erlang.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://steve.vinoski.net/blog/2008/05/18/clearly-time-to-end-this/#comment-920</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 13:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@René: thank you.

@Ola: I'd say it's less an appeal to authority than it is an appeal to practicality, reality, and experience. At the end of the day, all I can relate to you are my own experiences. It's the same thing that makes your own blogging so valuable to the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@René: thank you.</p>
<p>@Ola: I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s less an appeal to authority than it is an appeal to practicality, reality, and experience. At the end of the day, all I can relate to you are my own experiences. It&#8217;s the same thing that makes your own blogging so valuable to the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Ola Bini</title>
		<link>http://steve.vinoski.net/blog/2008/05/18/clearly-time-to-end-this/#comment-919</link>
		<dc:creator>Ola Bini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 08:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been an amusing back-and-forth, but I do believe it's  for the best that it stops now. In general I am in favor of your arguments, but Ted has got a good point that having Erlang's reliability guarantees builtin in a general purpose VM like the JVM or CLR would be highly useful.

Interesting sidenote. Both you and Ted seems to fall into the fallacy of Appeal to Authority - where the authority is yourself - quite often. Just note your last paragraph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been an amusing back-and-forth, but I do believe it&#8217;s  for the best that it stops now. In general I am in favor of your arguments, but Ted has got a good point that having Erlang&#8217;s reliability guarantees builtin in a general purpose VM like the JVM or CLR would be highly useful.</p>
<p>Interesting sidenote. Both you and Ted seems to fall into the fallacy of Appeal to Authority - where the authority is yourself - quite often. Just note your last paragraph.</p>
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