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	<title>Comments on: Clearly Time To End This</title>
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	<description>Ask forgiveness, not permission.</description>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://steve.vinoski.net/blog/2008/05/18/clearly-time-to-end-this/comment-page-1/#comment-978</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 08:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bill: yes, an uber-VM would be nice for a lot of applications. All I&#039;m saying, though, is that when Ted or anyone else says &quot;oh, we&#039;ll just build Erlang&#039;s reliability into this VM over here,&quot; I think they&#039;re dreaming, unless they&#039;re aware that it&#039;ll take years to get there but they&#039;re leaving that part out for whatever reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bill: yes, an uber-VM would be nice for a lot of applications. All I&#8217;m saying, though, is that when Ted or anyone else says &#8220;oh, we&#8217;ll just build Erlang&#8217;s reliability into this VM over here,&#8221; I think they&#8217;re dreaming, unless they&#8217;re aware that it&#8217;ll take years to get there but they&#8217;re leaving that part out for whatever reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Burke</title>
		<link>http://steve.vinoski.net/blog/2008/05/18/clearly-time-to-end-this/comment-page-1/#comment-977</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 12:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, I thought you were behind the UBER-VM?  If we&#039;re gonna have this polyglot world, we&#039;ll need to unify under something like the VM or integration is gonna be a bitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, I thought you were behind the UBER-VM?  If we&#8217;re gonna have this polyglot world, we&#8217;ll need to unify under something like the VM or integration is gonna be a bitch.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Wilson</title>
		<link>http://steve.vinoski.net/blog/2008/05/18/clearly-time-to-end-this/comment-page-1/#comment-925</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 18:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having spent decades up to my neck in c++ socket code (something I quite enjoy actually) I&#039;ve got to say the one thing this all has done for me is to make me look about for some, any excuse to start noodling around with erlang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having spent decades up to my neck in c++ socket code (something I quite enjoy actually) I&#8217;ve got to say the one thing this all has done for me is to make me look about for some, any excuse to start noodling around with erlang.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://steve.vinoski.net/blog/2008/05/18/clearly-time-to-end-this/comment-page-1/#comment-920</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 13:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@René: thank you.

@Ola: I&#039;d say it&#039;s less an appeal to authority than it is an appeal to practicality, reality, and experience. At the end of the day, all I can relate to you are my own experiences. It&#039;s the same thing that makes your own blogging so valuable to the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@René: thank you.</p>
<p>@Ola: I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s less an appeal to authority than it is an appeal to practicality, reality, and experience. At the end of the day, all I can relate to you are my own experiences. It&#8217;s the same thing that makes your own blogging so valuable to the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Ola Bini</title>
		<link>http://steve.vinoski.net/blog/2008/05/18/clearly-time-to-end-this/comment-page-1/#comment-919</link>
		<dc:creator>Ola Bini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 08:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been an amusing back-and-forth, but I do believe it&#039;s  for the best that it stops now. In general I am in favor of your arguments, but Ted has got a good point that having Erlang&#039;s reliability guarantees builtin in a general purpose VM like the JVM or CLR would be highly useful.

Interesting sidenote. Both you and Ted seems to fall into the fallacy of Appeal to Authority - where the authority is yourself - quite often. Just note your last paragraph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been an amusing back-and-forth, but I do believe it&#8217;s  for the best that it stops now. In general I am in favor of your arguments, but Ted has got a good point that having Erlang&#8217;s reliability guarantees builtin in a general purpose VM like the JVM or CLR would be highly useful.</p>
<p>Interesting sidenote. Both you and Ted seems to fall into the fallacy of Appeal to Authority &#8211; where the authority is yourself &#8211; quite often. Just note your last paragraph.</p>
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